The Grassroots Tavern
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The Grassroots Tavern had been on St. Mark's Place for 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, in the hallway of the Elk Hotel on West 42nd Street. The pungent odor of profound decay. And since I seem to live drawn to the odor of decay (old books, dead leaves), I maintain trying to grab it, but the longer I sit down here, the to a greater extent than I lose it. (Later, at home, I volition discovery it again, clinging to my sweater.)
Flies buzz the air of Grassroots. Fruit flies together with household flies that nation without hesitation on the mass I am asset (Heidi Julavits' The Folded Clock), rubbing their hands together to groom themselves. I moving ridge them away together with drinkable my drink.
Two older men sit down at the close terminate of the bar, past times the window where daylight is dying. They speak close "all the perverts inwards Hollywood," the creeps getting ripped from the woodwork. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 boyfriend takes a topographic point together with opens a paperback re-create of Semiotics of the Cinema. As the sunlight fades, the bar blushes crimson amongst neon from the GRASSROOTS sign inwards the window tangled inwards houseplants.
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 adult woman walks upwards together with down, taking pictures of the place. When I inquire her close the pictures, she introduces herself together with it turns out nosotros know each other virtually, spider web log to blog. Her mention is C.O. Moed of 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, My Private Coney, aka It Was Her New York, where she has shared her 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, memories of the Grassroots. I 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, interviewed her dorsum inwards 2009.
So nosotros sit down together with talk. I inquire her, "Do y'all odour that incredible odor? Like a dead body?" She replies, "It's a 1 grand 1000 rats rotting inwards the walls." Her definitive respond settles it for me together with forthwith I tin forget close the odour together with motility on to other things.
C.O. has been coming to Grassroots since she was a teenager inwards 1976. Her woman parent brought her. Her woman parent was a bohemian pianist, "eccentric every bit hell together with wild." C.O. says, "I similar to remember of New York every bit a mother. The streets are your woman parent together with your woman parent is your mother. And y'all guide hold to move both." So she turned to Grassroots for survival. It's home.
"I was hither the nighttime later Trump was elected. I was hither the nighttime earlier my woman parent died together with the nighttime later my woman parent died. I was sitting at that table, correct at that topographic point past times the window, when I saw the starting fourth dimension adapt walk downwards St. Mark's together with I thought Oh shit. That was 1978."
C.O. grew upwards on Grand Street together with never felt similar she belonged anywhere or to anyone. "Grassroots was a identify I could larn together with sit down downwards together with live safe. No demands here. You could come upwards inwards together with people liked you. It was a identify I kept returning to. I gibe here. It's declasse--in the literal pregnant of the word--there's no course of report here. Whatever y'all are, you're here. It had a big gay following. Vietnam Vets. Actors. NYU students. Black people. Whatever y'all were, y'all got to live a operate of it."
She calls Grassroots a "touchstone" inwards her life. "I germinated here," she says. Like many New Yorkers who've been hither awhile, together with similar many newcomers who come upwards looking for New York, she laments the passing of the city's soul, the vanishing of places that experience authentic together with open.
"I don't guide hold whatever identify inwards my life similar this," she says. "When y'all desire to exit your apartment, where create y'all go? I don't know anymore. But who the fuck am I non to guide hold diaspora? You dear what y'all love. Go forward."
I inquire her what she agency past times diaspora. She agency loss.
"You lose your homeland," she says. "You lose your woman parent tongue. You lose your friends. Who the fuck are nosotros to live excused from loss? And yes, it feels awful. Do y'all miss your home? Does a fish miss the water? I don't know whatever identify similar this."
As the afternoon darkens, to a greater extent than people enter. Younger together with older. An older homo at the bar says to his friend, "The Times had an interesting article close how to a greater extent than together with to a greater extent than stores won't accept cash." They speak close this together with and hence it's dorsum to the perverts inwards Hollywood together with how immature men, especially, don't know how to speak to women because they pass all their fourth dimension on smartphones. The friend says, "They demand to sentinel a few Cary Grant pictures."
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 trio of hefty immature men inwards flannel shirts walk inwards together with club pitchers of beer together with bowls of popcorn. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 immature adult woman comes inwards wearing a brownish beret, fighting boots, together with smart glasses, an unwashed New Yorker tote pocketbook on her shoulder. I think: My people.
"There are kids who larn this place," C.O. says. "They're the well-read outliers inwards this world. This identify is their clothing. You know when individual puts on something that looks similar they should live wearing it? They're smart, bookworm, rare, unique beings. Look around. This identify is inter-generational. It serves your pump together with your soul. This is non a bar for an idealized self. This is for when y'all guide hold naught left but your pump together with your soul. It's no bullshit."
She turns to the boyfriend reading Semiotics of the Cinema together with asks him why he comes to Grassroots. He explains that he's ever come upwards here, since college, that it was only the correct identify for him to be.
Though a few suits were walking downwards St. Mark's Place xl years ago, the street continued to live a counter-cultural zone for decades. Until now. Today, when she looks at St. Mark's, C.O. thinks, "We're fucked."
"Neighborhood people, who are non one-percenters, people who demand to larn someplace condom amongst their pump together with soul, guide hold nowhere to go. Look. You larn to a identify together with at that topographic point are micro-layers a human foot long betwixt y'all together with everyone else, distance betwixt your os together with their perception of you. Race, class, gender, all that. Here at that topographic point is no distance. Here y'all don't guide hold to defend, validate. At Grassroots, it's similar beingness alone, only you've got company."
We speak close the novel bar that is going to supervene upon Grassroots, the 1 that's been compared to "Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole." Will it live welcoming to the same clientele?
"If it's not," says C.O., "St. Mark's is -- well, possibly it's non dead, but it's deadened. Maybe it's been Botoxed. I experience erased. There's no identify that fits me now. So I'm solitary. Yeah, I tin live myself without Grassroots. You tin live yourself without your woman parent together with father. But a operate of y'all is gone. People desire to state New York is ever changing? This is non change. This is obliteration."
At night, the bar fills up, generally amongst immature people. Girls inwards chunky eyeglasses together with to a greater extent than berets. Boys inwards flannel shirts together with tattoos. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few punks amongst half-shaven heads. The odor shifts 1 time again every bit the bar warms from all the torso heat. Now it smells of wintertime coats wreathed inwards cigarette smoke, together with hot cider from the hot cider pot, together with popcorn from the popcorn machine. Someone is fragrant amongst piping tobacco. Grassroots smells really much alive.
An older homo dressed caput to toe inwards Army camouflage orders a pitcher of beer together with 1 mug. He leans over together with asks 1 of the bartenders, "This identify is closing?"
The bartender says, "It's got a novel owner. I don't know what's gonna happen. They seem similar prissy guys, hence possibly they won't modify it much. Put a kitchen inwards the back. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few upgrades. It'll live pretty much the same."
I think: We'll meet close that. Too many times, I've seen what the novel people do--those "nice guys"--how they state they'll save a identify together with and hence they gut it, enhance the prices, modify the clientele. So we'll see. Whatever happens, y'all tin bet the identify won't odour the same.
The Grassroots Tavern had been on St. Mark's Place for 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, in the hallway of the Elk Hotel on West 42nd Street. The pungent odor of profound decay. And since I seem to live drawn to the odor of decay (old books, dead leaves), I maintain trying to grab it, but the longer I sit down here, the to a greater extent than I lose it. (Later, at home, I volition discovery it again, clinging to my sweater.)
Flies buzz the air of Grassroots. Fruit flies together with household flies that nation without hesitation on the mass I am asset (Heidi Julavits' The Folded Clock), rubbing their hands together to groom themselves. I moving ridge them away together with drinkable my drink.
Two older men sit down at the close terminate of the bar, past times the window where daylight is dying. They speak close "all the perverts inwards Hollywood," the creeps getting ripped from the woodwork. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 boyfriend takes a topographic point together with opens a paperback re-create of Semiotics of the Cinema. As the sunlight fades, the bar blushes crimson amongst neon from the GRASSROOTS sign inwards the window tangled inwards houseplants.
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 adult woman walks upwards together with down, taking pictures of the place. When I inquire her close the pictures, she introduces herself together with it turns out nosotros know each other virtually, spider web log to blog. Her mention is C.O. Moed of 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, My Private Coney, aka It Was Her New York, where she has shared her 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, memories of the Grassroots. I 42 years. It unopen on New Year's Eve. The rent was every bit good high. The infinite volition live taken over past times individual who runs a chain of bars that guide hold been compared to “Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole."
On it goes.
I rarely went inwards to Grassroots. Just a few times over the years. It wasn't my bar. But I went inwards earlier the closing, every bit I oftentimes do, together with wishing I'd gone to a greater extent than often.
It's a weekday afternoon betwixt Christmas together with New Year's together with the identify is quiet. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of customers sit down at the far terminate of the long bar. No 1 is playing darts or looking at the soundless television. The music is classic rock. "Sweet Home Alabama" together with "Don't Stop Believin." The bartender is a adult woman amongst tattoos on her arm together with a vivid, multicolored dark eye. I accept a topographic point at 1 of the tattered stools, club a drink, together with come upwards into bracing contact amongst the odour of the place.
The feral stink of whatever sometime dive is the same from bar to bar, years of sour beer soaked into the flooring boards, the organic rot of sometime wood. It tells y'all that you're inwards a identify that's been hither for a long time. But Grassroots has something extra, a musky base of operations banking firm annotation that shifts inwards the air, lifting together with and hence fading. At starting fourth dimension I can't identify it. Then my association goes to the 1 fourth dimension I inhaled the residuum of a dead body, interviewed her dorsum inwards 2009.
So nosotros sit down together with talk. I inquire her, "Do y'all odour that incredible odor? Like a dead body?" She replies, "It's a 1 grand 1000 rats rotting inwards the walls." Her definitive respond settles it for me together with forthwith I tin forget close the odour together with motility on to other things.
C.O. has been coming to Grassroots since she was a teenager inwards 1976. Her woman parent brought her. Her woman parent was a bohemian pianist, "eccentric every bit hell together with wild." C.O. says, "I similar to remember of New York every bit a mother. The streets are your woman parent together with your woman parent is your mother. And y'all guide hold to move both." So she turned to Grassroots for survival. It's home.
"I was hither the nighttime later Trump was elected. I was hither the nighttime earlier my woman parent died together with the nighttime later my woman parent died. I was sitting at that table, correct at that topographic point past times the window, when I saw the starting fourth dimension adapt walk downwards St. Mark's together with I thought Oh shit. That was 1978."
C.O. grew upwards on Grand Street together with never felt similar she belonged anywhere or to anyone. "Grassroots was a identify I could larn together with sit down downwards together with live safe. No demands here. You could come upwards inwards together with people liked you. It was a identify I kept returning to. I gibe here. It's declasse--in the literal pregnant of the word--there's no course of report here. Whatever y'all are, you're here. It had a big gay following. Vietnam Vets. Actors. NYU students. Black people. Whatever y'all were, y'all got to live a operate of it."
She calls Grassroots a "touchstone" inwards her life. "I germinated here," she says. Like many New Yorkers who've been hither awhile, together with similar many newcomers who come upwards looking for New York, she laments the passing of the city's soul, the vanishing of places that experience authentic together with open.
"I don't guide hold whatever identify inwards my life similar this," she says. "When y'all desire to exit your apartment, where create y'all go? I don't know anymore. But who the fuck am I non to guide hold diaspora? You dear what y'all love. Go forward."
I inquire her what she agency past times diaspora. She agency loss.
"You lose your homeland," she says. "You lose your woman parent tongue. You lose your friends. Who the fuck are nosotros to live excused from loss? And yes, it feels awful. Do y'all miss your home? Does a fish miss the water? I don't know whatever identify similar this."
As the afternoon darkens, to a greater extent than people enter. Younger together with older. An older homo at the bar says to his friend, "The Times had an interesting article close how to a greater extent than together with to a greater extent than stores won't accept cash." They speak close this together with and hence it's dorsum to the perverts inwards Hollywood together with how immature men, especially, don't know how to speak to women because they pass all their fourth dimension on smartphones. The friend says, "They demand to sentinel a few Cary Grant pictures."
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 trio of hefty immature men inwards flannel shirts walk inwards together with club pitchers of beer together with bowls of popcorn. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 immature adult woman comes inwards wearing a brownish beret, fighting boots, together with smart glasses, an unwashed New Yorker tote pocketbook on her shoulder. I think: My people.
"There are kids who larn this place," C.O. says. "They're the well-read outliers inwards this world. This identify is their clothing. You know when individual puts on something that looks similar they should live wearing it? They're smart, bookworm, rare, unique beings. Look around. This identify is inter-generational. It serves your pump together with your soul. This is non a bar for an idealized self. This is for when y'all guide hold naught left but your pump together with your soul. It's no bullshit."
She turns to the boyfriend reading Semiotics of the Cinema together with asks him why he comes to Grassroots. He explains that he's ever come upwards here, since college, that it was only the correct identify for him to be.
Though a few suits were walking downwards St. Mark's Place xl years ago, the street continued to live a counter-cultural zone for decades. Until now. Today, when she looks at St. Mark's, C.O. thinks, "We're fucked."
"Neighborhood people, who are non one-percenters, people who demand to larn someplace condom amongst their pump together with soul, guide hold nowhere to go. Look. You larn to a identify together with at that topographic point are micro-layers a human foot long betwixt y'all together with everyone else, distance betwixt your os together with their perception of you. Race, class, gender, all that. Here at that topographic point is no distance. Here y'all don't guide hold to defend, validate. At Grassroots, it's similar beingness alone, only you've got company."
We speak close the novel bar that is going to supervene upon Grassroots, the 1 that's been compared to "Euro Disney’s vision of the classic Irish Gaelic watering hole." Will it live welcoming to the same clientele?
"If it's not," says C.O., "St. Mark's is -- well, possibly it's non dead, but it's deadened. Maybe it's been Botoxed. I experience erased. There's no identify that fits me now. So I'm solitary. Yeah, I tin live myself without Grassroots. You tin live yourself without your woman parent together with father. But a operate of y'all is gone. People desire to state New York is ever changing? This is non change. This is obliteration."
At night, the bar fills up, generally amongst immature people. Girls inwards chunky eyeglasses together with to a greater extent than berets. Boys inwards flannel shirts together with tattoos. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few punks amongst half-shaven heads. The odor shifts 1 time again every bit the bar warms from all the torso heat. Now it smells of wintertime coats wreathed inwards cigarette smoke, together with hot cider from the hot cider pot, together with popcorn from the popcorn machine. Someone is fragrant amongst piping tobacco. Grassroots smells really much alive.
An older homo dressed caput to toe inwards Army camouflage orders a pitcher of beer together with 1 mug. He leans over together with asks 1 of the bartenders, "This identify is closing?"
The bartender says, "It's got a novel owner. I don't know what's gonna happen. They seem similar prissy guys, hence possibly they won't modify it much. Put a kitchen inwards the back. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few upgrades. It'll live pretty much the same."
I think: We'll meet close that. Too many times, I've seen what the novel people do--those "nice guys"--how they state they'll save a identify together with and hence they gut it, enhance the prices, modify the clientele. So we'll see. Whatever happens, y'all tin bet the identify won't odour the same.
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